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that the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev took a radical turn, when exactly? what about that six-month trip to dagestan and chechnya. i want to bring in pete williams. good morning once again. i want to start with dzhokhar tsarnaev. do we know specifically beyond serious condition how he's doing and how much talking he's doing? >> well, very little talking because of his throat wound. serious but stable condition is the way they describe it. we have been told that they are asking him some questions during brief periods and that he is giving them answers in writing. what he's saying we don't know. we can assume they are asking him about other threats. whether they had other plotters working with them or whether there were other explosives out there. that's the kind of questions they can ask during this initial period before they have to give him a miranda warning. >> which deals with public security threat. do investigators have a good handle, pete, on how big an arsenal they had? >> you know, we have heard conflicting things about this. we know they had a lot of finished bombs because they
states with his older brother, tamerlan a decade ago. the two lived together in cambridge, the suspect who was killed in a shutout this morning, tamerlan is a tsarnaev was 26. in 2007 he became a legal resident in america, he was a student at bunker hill community college and competitive boxer. this violent and drautic series of events was not set off by police, but by the suspects themselves, who were apparently trying to escape law enforcement. here's how it played out. around 10:00 p.m. last night, the suspects robbed a store. they then proceeded to fatally shoot an m.i.t. security officer and hijack a mercedes suv. the owner of that vehicle was held hostage for half an hour while the two brothers pulled $800 out of an atm. they released the owner of the mercedes unharmed. police chased the suspects into watertown, where this shootout took place. the suspects exchanged fire with police and threw explosives towards them. at one point, tamerlan sarn ev got out of the car wearing an ied strapped to his chest and was shot by police. his body was run over by dzhokah tsarnaev as he fled t
tsarnaev. an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of the charges, i would think at the very least they'll charge him with the bombing, with a terrorism offense for that. and interestingly enough, under the federal statutes, which apply here, use of a weapon of mass destruction, which is the federal law version of what a bomb is, if death r
chechnya were raised in the u.s. but in recent years the older brother, tamerlan's, islamic faith had become stricter. he'd stopped smoking and drinking and given up boxing. his uncle said he noticed those changes several years ago and spoke to a family friend. >> last time i spoke with tamerlan, 2009, and i was shocked when i heard his words. his phrases. it wasn't devotion. it was something as it's called been radicalized. he said there is someone who brainwashed him, some newly convert to islam. >> 2011 the russian government did ask the fbi to investigate tamerlan. the fbi says it checked data bases, interviewed tamerlan and family members but, quote, did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign. on sunday some lawmakers said the fbi may have dropped the ball. >> anwr alaki. now this case with the older brother. this is at least the fifth case i'm aware of where the fbi has failed to stop someone who ultimately became a terrorist murderer. >> then in 2012 camm etamerlan traveled to dagestan where his mother was from and both parents live now. he stayed there for six mo
there what could now be called warning signs? >> 26-year-old tamerlan, the fbi questioned him several years ago because they were keeping a very close eye on him but people who knew him say, look, he was a quiet guy. he seemed to be living the typical american life as well. he was religious, devout muslim. a boxer. he wanted to join the u.s. olympic boxing team. he drove a measurrcedes. he dropped out of college to marry an american woman. they were taken into police custody for a bit yesterday. by all accounts this was a religious man but a man who just seemed to fit in very well here. >> still so many questions. jeff, appreciate the insight this morning. >> a question lingering today could the bombing suspects ties to disputed territory of chechnya led them to violence? andrea mitchell is nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent. >> that's the connection what would have been going on there is what investigators want to question dzhokhar about when he is medically able to talk. officials believe he was following the lead of his older brother, tamerlan, who was radicalized in a six-month t
is the surviving suspect here, dzhokhar tsarnaev, is in hospital. tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman mike rogers, now we have more information about some evidence of him sort of dropping out of society, as it were, information after he comes back from foreign travel, postings on his youtube account and other social media indicating that he had exposure to jihadist elements whether that's connect canned to chechnya and the struggles there or otherwise. what do you know this morning and what do you want to know? >> it's important to understand why, in fact, the fbi interviewed him in the first place. so they had information from a foreign inte
today, new questions about how the fbi interrogated tamerlan tsarnaev before the attacks. >> why didn't the fbi follow up on that? you combine the first interrogation, the first examination plus the subsequent act. when somebody is brought to your attention, you investigate and find nothing and then he carries out murders, you wonder, didn't you miss something in the investigation? >> and today, our investigative team uncovered new details about the suspect's weapons. tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams i
intelligence agency about tamerlan as early as 2011 and actually investigated him, questioned him about radical jihadi sympathies. it came from the russian intelligence service, and the fbi says they found no evidence of criminal activities and basically let the matter stand. now, what's interesting is in january of 2012, after getting that report, after doing that investigation, he flies to russia for six months. and then returns to the country and then shortly thereafter sets up this youtube account filled with radical jihadi postings clearly indicative of sympathies with that cause. now, that's not evidence of a crime. that doesn't trigger necessarily any charges, but it's going to raise questions about what the fbi knew and when they knew it. >> okay. michael isikoff, thanks so much. please stay put because next i'm going to ask you about any other accomplices and what officials are saying today about that. thanks, michael. >>> let's get more on the suspects' international links. i'm joined by richard engel. we're glad you're here. >> thank you. >> i loved what you said on "rock center" las
viewers up to speed on travel that tamerlan, the older brother, who is now deceased has done recently? >> last year from january through july he left, flew out of new york's kennedy airport and flew to russia and spent six months overseas. whereabouts unknown. they're desperately trying to track those movements to find out was he just going back to visit relatives or did he go to engage in some sort of terror training or rad dalization? that remains unanswered at this early stage of the investigation. that is one piece of the puzzle. the other question or these documents that we've obtained show that law enforcement really didn't get on to their trail till recently because based on the travel warnings, they weren't date stamped till 6:00 a.m. this morning on both the brothers. so it's clear they really weren't on the radar screen anytime before in terms of law enforcement. so people always ask, where there any warning signs? were these people -- did they do anything that would raise that red flag? there appears to be nothing based on the documents. and the people we've spoke within so
loose. dzhokhar tsarnaev. we know the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. we know two people in custody, not necessary related, that live in the apartment that these two brothers live in. willie, you have been covering things overnight. give us the tick talk through that convenience store robbery to where we are right now. >> as pete williams is pointing out for us this morning this came out because of the actions of these two alleged terrorists. they decided to rob a 7-eleven at 10:20 in cambridge. they went and murdered a police officer sitting in his vehicle at m.i.t. that led to a carjacking. they took a black mercedes suv. they held at gunpoint the driver of that car for 30 minutes before releasing the driver unharmed. at that point, there's a chase and authorities come into the town of watertown, as mike barnicle described it for us this morning. a bedroom community of 32,000 people and there was a shootout in the streets of watertown. suspect number one. the one we have come to known in the black hat. was on the ground. authorities found him with an ied. improvised exp
and the subsequent shootout in which the older of the two were killed. his name is tamerlan tsarnaev. he is 26 -- was 26 years old. it's his brother. the man said to be wearing the white hat who got away and has been pursued by authorities. he drove the car jacked suv for a time and then got out. both of the two brothers, we're told, came to the united states roughly a decade ago. they came in when their families sought asylum. their father was a government employee. they have been living in the boston area in cambridge for several years. the younger brother has a massachusetts driver's license. he's a resident of cambridge. the older brother is a legal, permanent resident. the older brother was born in russia. the younger brother, the one they are still trying to find now, dzhokhar tsarnaev was born in kyrgyzstan. his family lives in russia and we're told his father was a public official there at one time. the reason we're told for this extraordinary security in the area of watertown is, of course, because they still don't know where the other of the two brothers, the second bomber is located
in watertown, massachusetts, his brother, 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was killed after an overnight shootout with police. law enforcement fills say that both are from the russian region near chechnya and have been living in the united states with family members for about a decade. their estranged uncle spoke if maryland a short time ago. >> jihad, turn yourself in. and act forgiveness. if the injured, and those who left, ask forgiveness from these people. if we're ashamed, people are ashame on the family, our family, you put shame on 9 entire chechen. >> across boston, an unprecedented situation. the entire city and metropolitan area, all surrounding suburbs effectively shut down. all mass transit suspended. no a no-fly zone in effect. people have been told to stay inside their homes. >> keep the doors locked, do not open the door unless there is a uniformed, identified law enforcement officer on other side of it, requesting to come inside. >> there have been victims, police say that the bombing suspect shot and killed, 26-year-old sean collier. an m.i.t. patrol officer around 10:30 on campu
roots in the chechnya region of russia. older brother tamerlan visited dagestan in 2012 a region in southern russia where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became radicalized in cambridge and not overseas and eventually drew in his younger brother but lawmakers say more questions about their past need to be answered. >> we believe they may have traveled on an alias to get back to his home country and that seven months, six and a half months or so becomes extremely important. so you know he had some radicalization before he left, you know he probably didn't travel on his own name or some variation of his own name, and when he comes back, he has a renewed interest in that radi
the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as easy. joining me today, former dnc communications director and msnbc host, karen finney, "new york times" op-ed columnist frank bruney, retired army sergeant wes moore and "mother jones" msnbc political analyst, david corn and msnbc justice correspondent, pete williams. let's talk about the latest on this ca
last night in the interaction with police, tamerlan tsarnaev who was 26 years old. it all started last night in cambridge. there was a shootout with an officer at m.i.t. on the m.i.t. campus. that officer having been killed last night, found dead in his police cruiser. the suspects then reportedly carjacked an suv, and a chase ensued. at one point they did release the driver unharmed. they went into watertown which is just outside of cambridge, about 10, 15 minutes outside of cambridge and that's where there was a shootout with police. by 1:30 a.m., the first suspect tamerlan tsarnaev was dead and the second suspect was on the loose and being chased. this morning at about 5:00 a.m. police shut down the mbta. they have also now seen the shutdown of amtrak between boston and providence, a major shutdown. ed davis, commissioner of police, says this is a major man hunt. >> overall at this hour we've seen a lot of activity. they have surrounded the home in cambridge of the suspects where both lived. the a.p. reportedly got in touch with their father overseas in russia. their father expressi
, 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. dzhokar appears to be in the boat in the back of that house. now that boat is on fire. there is tremendous amount of police presence. that convergent intensified in just the last hour in the wake of a police press conference lifting the request for people to stay inside and just a little bit after that, a rush of police into the area and an explosion of gunfire. joining us on the phone is rebecca kraeger. he backyard looks into the yard where everything is happening. rebecca with, can you tell me what you're seeing? >> right now i'm seeing a lot of flashing lights from police cars. i'm hearing a lot of helicopters overhead, i think. right now, there's a house blocking where the house with the boat is. but i can see a lot of police officers roaming around. and it's scary. there's a lot going on. maybe a hundred yard from me. >> rebecca, i imagine you were sheltered all day. were you close enough to hear the fire fight that happened in watertown? >> yeah. i'm probably half a mile from away from there. i was up and the stuff with the mit shooting was
. if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the military commission law. 20, it exempts american citizens. so there is that. they could hold him indefinitely. that has to be done, maybe, and maybe not because he is a civilian. that's a question the supreme court has not answered. the purpose has to be to keep him off the battlefield. not to interrogate him. and what you're saerg is interrogation, be to keep him off the battlefield. and point, two it is certainly possible. he is involved in a larger network of cells that may be affiliated with al qaeda. that's why the fbi has deployed interrogators. that's why they will ask him before they mirandize him. that's
, the older brother tamerlan, 26, now dead, we know that in january of last year, he flew from jfk to moscow. he was over there for six months, returned from moscow to jfk in july. we don't know what happened there, except that he visited his father. scroll back down, we move south back to that region. there's chechnya. that's where his father is right now. he gave an interview to russian tv today. his father says his sons have been framed, at least that's what he believe. if you are from that region, it is muslim. what we do not know is if there is any direct connection between these individuals. one of the key movements there have disavowed them, so they're not connected in any way. the reason that they're of chechen decent is why we have focus sod much on this area of the world today. >> michelle, people have been wondering all day, the chechen fight has been about independence from russia. what does that have to do with the united states? some have tried to argue that that movement has really morphed into something a lot more broad. is that what it is? >> that would be the question. we h
's -- and the brother, tamerlan tsarnaev had the ploes sifs strapped to him. no indication that dzhokhar did. and he obviously tried to make an escape. so what does that tell you about his own state of mind and you know the idea some of these guys want to be a martyr to a case an if there is a cause and we don't know. some of them want to live. >> it tells me there's just what you said. there's a lot of people saying i'm willing to die but they don't necessariry want to die. this guy could have died. he could have leaned out of the boat and cranked out a couple more rounds and they would have put him down. but he chose not to. tactically they did everything they could to get him out of there alive. he could have committed that suicide. as long as we see the vid act of wanting to sur vief we have something to play with. we can dance with the devil to get information to save lives as long as we know this guy will not see the light of day outside of a prison again. >> where do you suppose they will take this line of questioning, clint? well, is that to me, chris? yeah. >> yeah. the things we're trying
. the two brothers, the one who was killed last night tamerlan tsarnaev. the man police are looking for at this hour is dzhokhar tsarnaev, identified by the fbi as wearing the white hat, as you can see in the photograph there. those were the photographs from the scene on monday at the boston marathon that were made public by the fbi last night. dzhokhar the man at large has a massachusetts driver's license and was born in kyrgyzstan. they came to the u.s. with their family in 2002, 2003. may have been here well over a decade in the united states. >> and has left a trail of devastation in their wake. pete williams also saying that this chase last night, which culminated and still continues now, but culminated in a huge shootout with the sounds of gunfire and explosives ringing through the streets of watertown in the dark of night. these guys were the ones who started this by potentially a realizing their faces were out there and if they wanted to make another mark or make a break for it, they had to do it right away. it involved them robbing a 7-eleven, carjacking someone, letting th
, but the older brother, dead, tamerlan tsarnaev, has been living in america since 2007. tell me your thoughts on what happened here. he's living in america since '07 and at some point, turns and decides he wants to kill americans. what would be your take in terms of the psychology and what these two are thinking or were thinking? >> well, we don't know, but we're about to find out. some say there might be a hybrid here, like major nidal hasan was radicalized via the internet, yet there was another soldier at ft. hood, an enlisted man, who built two explosive devices just like the ones we see used in boston because he had access to the same internet magazines that these guys did, but at ft. hood, he used it to kill soldiers for his own personal reasons, not necessarily anything that had to do with religion or politics. in this particular case, because perhaps the older brother was radicalized, had influence on the younger brother, who's the fugitive right now, we may find this is something like a timothy mcveigh. in essence, the target was not so specific, but the target was located because he
whether the elder son tamerlan, actually did meet someone suspicious. we know that he was with his father. his father has spoken at length about both sons actually. he did confirm the man did come out and visit and stayed with them. both parents have actually said that they believe both sons, the 26-year-old tamerlan, now deceased, and the 19-year-old dzhokhar, the one who's in custody in the hospital, they say that they were framed. and the mother has actually accused the fbi of regularly harassing the family. she says because they are chechens, ethnic chechens. now, the parents have been living more recently in dagestan which is in the north caucuses region. now, this is a very troubled area. it's a small russian republic, but it's neighboring chechnya. both of these areas have seen a lot of conflict, particularly an active separatist group in dagestan right now, there's a mission taking place in the area to clean up what the government says is a guerrilla group. now, the mother, of course, has described her sons as good people and that they were persecuted because they were chechens an
to the one in the surveillance photos he was allegedly wearing. investigators also want to question tamerlan tsarnaev's wife. the couple initially met at a nightclub. she later converted to islam, dropped out of college and had a child with him. her attorney has said that she had no suspicions that her husband might be plotting an attack. hundreds of people stood in silence at copley square at 2:50 p.m. one week after the bombings. president obama marked the moment of silence from the white house. the u.s. senate held a similar tribute on capitol hill. >>> it is still unclear what impact the boston bombings will have on the immigration debate in congress but the topic of national security is clearly playing a more rom neprominent n the discussion. things got tense on capitol hill yesterday when senator chuck schumer sparred with republican senator chuck grassley about the future of the legislation. take a look. >> a few ways to improve the bill, offer an amendment when we start mark-up in may and let's vote on it. i say that particularly to those who are pointing to what happened, the terrib
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